Regardless of the fallacies in their own argument, there is no substantiation behind it. For one, they base their theory on the lineage of Alexander the Great. This is preposterous, for at the time his father was Phillip, King of Macedonia (not of Greece, mind you), and his mother was a Greek whore that his father took for himself. Furthermore, Alexander was crowned as King of Macedonia, at which point he promptly invaded and took over Greece. Now then, why would someone invade their own country? Precisely, they wouldn’t. Thus, argument 1 is negated: Alexander the Great was Macedonian. Second, the theory that he spread “the Greek culture” is more ridiculous than the first argument. There is about as much a distinct “Greek culture” as there is a distinct “Columbian culture” or a “Zimbabwean culture”. It was a Mediterranean way of life that everyone in the region enjoyed, not just the self righteous Greeks, who persistently call the lifestyle “Greek”. It was representative of all the Balkans, and by that token Alexander the Great did not spread “Greek culture”, but rather Mediterranean culture.
Lastly, and most obtuse, is the argument that the land that FYROM occupies is really part of Greece. Well, what evidence is there for that argument? If it should be a part of Greece, then it most certainly would be. Land is acquired by working for it, not by complaining to the world community that some land should be yours. There is no divine mandate that dictates what lands belong to who. Did the lands in present day France always belong to the French? Or, did the lands of England always belong to British? Or even the lands of Germany, always to the Germans? No, of course not! There were disputes over those lands, and most often blood was spilt. They all belonged to a myriad of different tribes before any stability came about. Sorry Greeks, but this is a harsh world; Macedonia exists because, partially, your weakness and inability to control your own lands. Survival of the fittest as they call it; bitch and moan all you like but unless the hand of God comes down and grants Macedonia to Greece on a silver platter, the lands of Macedonia will forever more remain sovereign.
Now, to the man who insulted the people of Macedonian descent of being “pathetic slav retards”, I would like he himself to retort with at least half a sound of an argument as that which you see right here. Now, I am not often very outspoken, but I simply cannot stand to see such ignorance being blabbed about. There is a very fine line gents, between nationalism and bigotry. I trust you remember that. So, next time you would like to express your dogmatic complaints please follow some logical, coherent conventions if you please.
Proof: Alexander the Great was Greek and spoke Greek. Everything from ancient Macedonia is in Greece! There is one Macedonia and that Macedonia is 100% GREEK!
"Macedonia is all of Greece"
Bulgarians: MACEDONIA IS BULGARIAN!
(more shitty countries): MACEDONIA IS OURS.
Macedonians: Literally, no.
desrcibtion: Former member of the 'Greek City-States'.
synonim: Greek ass-kisser
Aim: To respect Greece forever, because they let Macedonia be a member of their nation
Greeks: Who the hell are you son?
Phillips II: I'm philly, from macedonia, your greatest fan! If I can join you, Greeks, my son will try to conquer the world, with your armies, under the name of Greece. He will fail miserably, but will be remembered forever!
Greek1: Sure why not, aye?
You have to love this country with its great and ancient culture!
Ancient Macedonian tribes were settled on this territory and were united by the first Macedonian king Macedon. The most known Ancient Macedonian kings are King Philip 2nd who achieved to conquer whole Greece (338 BC, Battle of Chaeronea ), and his son Alexander 3rd the Great (or Alexander 3rd the Macedon) who is one of the biggest conquerer in the history of mankind who achieved to invade 75% of the ancient known world (Persia, Egypt,parts from India etc). Soon after his dead his empire falls apart in smaller regions, kingdoms governed by his generals and their dynasties.
Despite the nowadays Greek possessive propaganda there are many evidence why Ancient Macedonians weren't Greeks:
1. They had their own Macedonian language nothing similar to Ancient Greek (the language is the most important mark of one nation)
2. They never were invited to participate the ancient Olympic Games (the only allowed to compete were the Greeks).
3. They had their own religion.
4. Alexander 1st (5 century BC) was was called "phillhellen" which means "friend of the Greek people". He supplied the Greeks with timber which they desperately need it to build fleet to win the war against the Persians.
5. One of the most known Greek orator and statesman Demosthenes in his speeches called "Philipiki" (against the Macedonian King Philip 2) called the Macedonians a tribe that has no connection with the culturally elated Greece.
The Macedonian region in the 3 century BC falls under Roman rule until the Middle Ages when Macedonian King Samoil creates big kingdom.
Macedonians are mixture from the the Ancient Macedonians and the Slavs who conquered this territory in 6-7 century AD (with the big movement of nations in Europe). This territory was torn apart in 1913 (The Balkan Wars) between the allied Balkan countries (Greece, Serbia, Bulgaria and Albania) which first banished the Ottoman Empire from it's territory (550 years under Turk rule) and then divided it.
Greece invaded Aegean, Serbia Vardar and Bulgaria Pirin Macedonia. Albania invaded small south-western part of its territory
The Republic of Macedonia was formed as socialist Republic in the Yugoslavian Federation from the Vardar part, its full independence achieved in 8 September 1991 after it separated
from the socialist system.